{"id":562,"date":"2013-03-14T02:57:07","date_gmt":"2013-03-14T02:57:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kellnlivestock.com\/site\/?p=434"},"modified":"2013-03-14T02:57:07","modified_gmt":"2013-03-14T02:57:07","slug":"i-saw-themboth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/kellnlivestock.com\/site\/i-saw-themboth\/","title":{"rendered":"I saw them&#8230;BOTH&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Yes, I recently saw both of the orginal Oklahoma goat gurus. &nbsp;Who? The L and the W in L&amp;W boer goats. &nbsp;Who you ask? &nbsp;That would be Don Lenhart and Sonny Wagner. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;It&#8217;s time for a bit of Okie goat history. &nbsp;Back in the late nineties, these two old geezers would sit around at Don&#8217;s country store at Camp Houston (look that one up on a map). &nbsp;Sonny had goats to eat weeds. &nbsp;He had a pile of spanish\/nubian does. &nbsp;Don was always looking for the next great thing&#8211;butcher shop, raise pigs, raise parakeets, greenhouses, etc. &nbsp;Well, now, he thought these boer goats were the next big thing. &nbsp;So, Don talked Sonny into going with him to Texas to buy some goats. &nbsp;They came home with a couple of purebred does and a common buck. &nbsp;A year or two later, they went back and bought a young buck that was stilling nursing his momma. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;These two crotchety old bastards would now show up at every county stock show and tell Jack Staats and I that, and I quote &#8220;All of you ag teachers have your heads up your asses. &nbsp;You need to be buying goats for kids to show. &nbsp;Goats are going to take over the country show circuit. &nbsp;you better wake up!&#8221; &nbsp;This would have been about 2001 &amp; 2002. &nbsp;They took that little buck prospect named Rooster and grew hiim up and showed him. &nbsp;He was grand at the state fair of OK and the National Western. &nbsp;They didn&#8217;t know how to show, clip or trim hooves, so they conned Barclay Holt into helping them. &nbsp;He always smelled like a buck afterwards. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;In 2003, Kela, Danielle Litzenberger and Kourtney Childers talked me into getting wether goats to go to Phoenix. &nbsp;Great. &nbsp;We bought two wethers for each girl. &nbsp;This was the first year that they had a show at Tulsa. &nbsp;So we went. &nbsp;And won a bunch of classes. &nbsp;We didn&#8217;t go to Phoenix as we all had the flu. &nbsp;In 2004, Kela and Danielle wanted goats again. &nbsp;We ended up buying some more wethers from Don &amp; Sonny. &nbsp;We take 3 wethers to Tulsa. &nbsp;All 3 were a set of triplets. &nbsp;They won 3 classes and Danielle was reserve grand. &nbsp;One of these won the state fair of OK. &nbsp;Now, fast forward to the spring of 2005 and they have the first ever wether goat show at Woodward district. &nbsp;Kela was grand and Danielle was reserve grand. &nbsp;The next year, we move to Fairview and have to show at Enid. &nbsp;Kela has grand and Danielle has grand at Woodward, both with wethers from these two genetic giants. &nbsp;Kela then ends up reserve grand at 2006 OYE. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;In the fall of 2006, Kela, Milligan and I had the first online goat sale on oklahomashowgoats.com. &nbsp;L&amp;W goats were the featured items. &nbsp;Fred Slater and I washed, sheared, sorted, showed and promoted these wethers for them with NO pay or commission. &nbsp;Milligan took the photos and this first online sale produced an OYE premium sale wether for Chance Greenroyd. &nbsp;Don didn&#8217;t like this damn &#8220;video&#8221; sale on the computer. &nbsp;&#8220;I can sell wethers off the farm for $1,000&#8221;, he said, although he never had before that sale or since. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I made a trip to Mike Kelly&#8217;s in the fall of 2005 and saw what wether goats were supposed to look like. &nbsp;I told Don that there was a buck or two called &#8220;900 and Out Of Bounds&#8221; and he needed to look at these genetics. &nbsp;&#8220;No papers? They can&#8217;t be very damn good.&#8221; &nbsp;He told me that just because we had done some winning didn&#8217;t mean that I knew what a good goat should look like. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; The next year, Don called wanting to know when we were going to have another &#8220;video&#8221; sale. &nbsp;I told him I wasn&#8217;t doing his work for him unless he could ask nicely. &nbsp;They never sold another goat online. &nbsp;Poe Cat kept dealing with him and managed to find a class winner at 2010 OYE for Danielle. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They don&#8217;t raise any goats now, but in true prophetic form they saw what was coming. &nbsp;Staats pulled his head out of his ass (kind of) and managed to win Tulsa with his daughter. &nbsp;I&#8217;m still messing with these dang animals. &nbsp;The jury is still out if my head is in or out. &nbsp;These two prophets were right about the rest of the country wanting goats. &nbsp;They had the best herd in Oklahoma. &nbsp;Period.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I once offered Sonny $150 for a wether goat that was loaded in a gooseneck trailer bound for the Dodge City sale barn. &nbsp;He said that &nbsp;&#8220;I was a dumb shit to pay that much for a goat. &nbsp;If I didn&#8217;t know better I would think that you were drunk. &nbsp;But hurry up and write the check before you forget and back out.&#8221; &nbsp;I paid him. &nbsp;Took the goat to a student. &nbsp;It was reserve grand at Woodward in 2005 and won a class at OYE that year. &nbsp;Yep, I&#8217;m the dumb one.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Sonny was at the Woodward goat show. &nbsp;He came up to me after the grand drive and handed me two quarters to &#8220;go buy a shave because I looked like crap and still didn&#8217;t know anything.&#8221; &nbsp;He then gave the Dragon Lady a big hug. &nbsp;He&#8217;s good about that. &nbsp;Sonny has always been fun to be around. &nbsp;He still wears his tape measure suspenders. &nbsp;And he likes to tell stories about myself, Fat Fred and Milligan looking at goats, drinking beverages and looking at the brahma bull. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t ask. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Don was at the heifer show today, watching his grandkids show cows. &nbsp;I got to see him for a minute&#8230;or two. &nbsp;I&#8217;m still a dumb bastard and he doesn&#8217;t mind reminding me. &nbsp;He sold the last of his does to Brandon Morgan a year or two ago. &nbsp;Don yelled at the cattle judge after the show. &nbsp;&#8220;Kennedy, just because you like to hear yourself talk reaons doesn&#8217;t mean that I want to listen to you. &nbsp;I&#8217;ve got places to go. &nbsp;Hurry up and quit talking them three times.&#8221; &nbsp; Classic. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Just look at the names mentioned in this blog. &nbsp;Sonny and Don had an influence on all of the Oklahoma show goat industry. &nbsp;Still do. &nbsp;I&#8217;d bet if you talked to Kela, some of her favorite memories are of going to the Camp Houston Country Store. &nbsp;Have Rhea heat up a sandwich for her while listening to Don, Sonny &amp; I argue. &nbsp;Then go look at little goats. &nbsp;She just happened to win Woodward, Enid, the State Fair of OK and reserve grand at OYE with goats that Don and Sonny gave to her. &nbsp;Yes, gave to her. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;Because, &nbsp;and I quote &#8220;You&#8217;re dad is a dumb ass and you work hard. &nbsp;Make us famous.&#8221; &nbsp;I still take that as a compliment.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;If you ever get the chance to get near Freedom, Ok. &nbsp;Stop in and ask for Don or Sonny. &nbsp;They won&#8217;t be far away and it is well worth your time. &nbsp;If you want more stories, call Fred, Kennedy, Poe, Milligan or Staats. &nbsp;They all have a story or two about these clowns.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Oh yeah!! &nbsp;Speaking of seeing them both. &nbsp;I saw a picture of Tyke holding fresh delivered twin babies this morning. &nbsp;Tyke and Mandy have twins on the ground&#8211;a boy and a girl. &nbsp;Congrats to them. &nbsp;Big Bill and I look forward to helping the Greer&#8217;s manage these offspring from young children to adulthood. &nbsp;These children will have lots of positive influences. &nbsp;Yes!!!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Yes, I recently saw both of the orginal Oklahoma goat gurus. &nbsp;Who? 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