{"id":3316,"date":"2019-12-19T02:23:13","date_gmt":"2019-12-19T02:23:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kellnlivestock.com\/?p=3316"},"modified":"2019-12-19T03:18:36","modified_gmt":"2019-12-19T03:18:36","slug":"warranties-guarantees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/kellnlivestock.com\/site\/warranties-guarantees\/","title":{"rendered":"Warranties &#038; Guarantees"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What kind of warranty goes with this product?<\/p>\n<p>What kind of guarantee is there?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>This fine day found me answering texts and phone calls regarding warranties &amp; guarantees on goats. \u00a0 Excellent topic as most warranties &amp; guarantees in the goat business are implied. \u00a0Most livestock people follow a time-honored warranty regarding their critters. \u00a0BUT, as non-livestock people enter the business, they might think differently.<\/p>\n<p>Communication between buyer and seller will almost always help fix most problems. \u00a0Don&#8217;t wait a year and then gripe about the problem. \u00a0Let the breeder know as soon as possible.<\/p>\n<p>To start with, a guarantee should be in writing and both parties should agree. \u00a0If I guarantee live births on a bred doe, then I will make it right. \u00a0If I guarantee a buck to be fertile, then it will be or I will give money back. \u00a0A warranty is different.<\/p>\n<p>1&#8211;Death. \u00a0 Once you buy it. \u00a0It is yours. \u00a0An online sale closes, you own it. \u00a0It doesn&#8217;t matter if you are planning on picking it up in two weeks and it dies a week after the sale. \u00a0It is yours. \u00a0HOWEVER, most breeders are going to work with a seller. \u00a0I sold a buck a couple of years ago to a big name Texan. \u00a0I agreed to deliver it on my next trip south. \u00a0The buck was sick the morning that I went to load him. \u00a0I doctored him, texted the buyer and told him that I would deliver on the next trip. \u00a0Well, the buck didn&#8217;t make it. \u00a0I swallowed the loss. \u00a0I didn&#8217;t have to, but I did. \u00a0It is worth more to me to do right, possibly have a repeat customer and just feel good about it.<\/p>\n<p>Now, let&#8217;s be realistic. \u00a0If you buy a $500 wether and he dies 2 weeks later. \u00a0It is what it is. \u00a0Don&#8217;t make the call. \u00a0It isn&#8217;t the breeders fault (unless he had a pre-existing condition). \u00a0Now, if you buy a $10,000 wether&#8211;make the call. \u00a0You probably aren&#8217;t going to get a $10K wether or all of your money back but most breeders will make an effort. \u00a0 Buying credit, replacement goat, something.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>2&#8211;Doe kids &amp; buck kids&#8211;NO guarantees. \u00a0If you buy a doe kid and she doesn&#8217;t breed, that&#8217;s it. \u00a0Not the sellers fault. \u00a0Same with a buck kid (under 6 months). \u00a0There is no way for the breeder to know if that animal is a breeder or not. \u00a0Too much time, too many variables. \u00a0There isn&#8217;t a guarantee on kids becoming breeders. \u00a0To me, this is common sense.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>3&#8211;Breeding age bucks&#8211;They must be serviceable the first season. \u00a0If they are non-breeders the first season, the breeder needs to make amends. \u00a0Now, if they are breeders when you first get them but then go bad, 4 or so months later&#8211;no warranty. \u00a0It happens. \u00a0In all species.<\/p>\n<p>Unless a valid reproductive specialist had tested the individual at time of sale and all was good. \u00a0But, once again, if I sell you a buck and he won&#8217;t fire. \u00a0I&#8217;ll make it right. \u00a0I have before. \u00a0But, if the breeding problem is caused by an injury after the sale, then it is not the seller&#8217;s problem.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>4&#8211;Yearling does&#8211;If they don&#8217;t breed, with a live service, after several tries, call the breeder. \u00a0Most will work with you. \u00a0However, if they breed, but slough the kids after several weeks or months, no go. \u00a0She is a breeder and the problem is most likely on the buyer&#8217;s end. \u00a0STD, moldy hay\/feed, stress, etc. \u00a0That is beyond the seller&#8217;s control.<\/p>\n<p>5&#8211;Mature does&#8211;No warranty. \u00a0A person never knows when one will stop producing. \u00a0Human, bovine, caprine, ovine, porcine, whatever. \u00a0ALWAYS call and talk to seller before bidding on mature does. \u00a0I&#8217;ve got a bad bitch that has raised a lot 1 buck. \u00a0But, I didn&#8217;t get her bred back last year and I hope she is stuck this year. \u00a0Everybody that sees her asks if she is for sale. \u00a0If she isn&#8217;t this year, she will be offered next spring&#8211;with NO warranty. \u00a0If you can get it done, get after it. \u00a0But don&#8217;t call me later complaining.<\/p>\n<p>also&#8212;see #4&#8211;if a mature doe settles then sloughs the kids, that is not the sellers problem.<\/p>\n<p>Years ago (over a decade), I was at one of the original goat godfather&#8217;s Labor Day production sale. \u00a0Norman Kohls announced &#8220;that this is one of the best does that I had ever seen but she doesn&#8217;t give enough milk to raise a pigeon.&#8221; \u00a0Can&#8217;t get much more honest than that and she brought $2,500&#8211;which was a lot back then.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>6&#8211;Bred does&#8211;Guaranteed to be bred at the time of pickup. \u00a0That&#8217;s all a breeder can do. \u00a0After that, there are too many variables that can cause issues. \u00a0Stress, nutrition, STDs, etc. \u00a0BUT, what happens if a doe kids a full cycle EARLIER than advertised. \u00a0That could be an issue as the buyer was not prepared. \u00a0Was she bred to advertised sire? \u00a0What about stress moving the last few weeks if you didn&#8217;t know that it was the last couple of weeks? \u00a0It is better if they go the cycle later.<\/p>\n<p>My policy, if I sell a bred a doe and she doesn&#8217;t kid or loses kids before full term, as long as it wasn&#8217;t a shit-show on the buyers&#8217; end and was natural causes, I will offer to re-breed her or give straws of semen to breed her. \u00a0I&#8217;m not giving money back. \u00a0Why? \u00a0Maybe it was buyer&#8217;s fault. \u00a0Or even buyer&#8217;s remorse and they gave a shot of lut to cause problems. \u00a0No way of knowing, so no money back.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever the situation is, be in contact with the breeder and let them know as soon as you aware of problems. \u00a0The higher price the animal, the more likely they are going to help.<\/p>\n<p>AND on that note, if you buy something cheap, or at a sale barn, don&#8217;t hit the breeder up. \u00a0Common sense and common courtesy goes a long, long way in dealing with livestock warranties. \u00a0I will always try to do what I can do to keep a person as a customer. \u00a0HOWEVER, there are limits.<\/p>\n<p>This is an abbreviated version and in no way constitutes a contract that covers warranties, guarantees or anything else. \u00a0All of the above is simply to be used for educational and enjoyment purposes. \u00a0I will not allow this to be used in a legal setting to determine a warranty, guarantee or to be used in the impeachment of the POTUS. \u00a0None of this can be used without my expressed written consent. \u00a0It is only a common sense guideline.<\/p>\n<p>You all know that I have to refer to a movie quote at this point. \u00a0You people that know me, know the movie.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s think about this for a sec, Ted. \u00a0Why do they put a guarantee on a box? \u00a0Hmmm, very interesting.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t know the movie line, I highly suggest that you dial up the Chris Farley classic &#8220;Tommy Boy&#8221; movie. \u00a0Watch it, laugh until you hurt and then thank me later.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Changing topics.<\/p>\n<p>Impeachment!! \u00a0 These dumb asses are making a mockery of the word. \u00a0No matter how this ends, we are at a tipping point in the U S of A.<\/p>\n<p>I will guarantee you this. \u00a0The American farmer &amp; rancher is the best producer of the safest, cheapest and most abundant food supply that the world has ever seen.<\/p>\n<p>The United States military is the strongest, best trained and heaviest armed military that the world has ever seen.<\/p>\n<p>We only need three things to remain the best nation EVER!! \u00a0 \u00a0Prosperous agriculturists, strong military and an ever present faith in GOD and his son. \u00a0Our nation cannot survive without all three. \u00a0Ag is in trouble, we need more GOD and Jesus. \u00a0And LORD, please be with our troops and the people in our capitol that have lost sight of all three.<\/p>\n<p>No matter the topic, common sense goes a long way. \u00a0And we need more of it.<\/p>\n<p>This is the abbreviated version. \u00a0I&#8217;m sorry. \u00a0Not sorry. \u00a0Peace be with you and yours and for the love of GOD and all that is holy, please let there be more common sense when and where it is needed. \u00a0Never let the warranty expire on common sense and good deeds. \u00a0I guarantee that it will help.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What kind of warranty goes with this product? 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