Maybe I’m wrong.  I doubt it, but just maybe.  It seems to me like it would be common courtesy to NOT call a breeder and ask them what the judge at Tulsa will like and what goats at Pfeiffers will work for that judge.  I will gladly answer questions, but it seems to me like it would help if the person asking the question had EVER bought a goat from me or even been to my place and looked.  Point being, if you haven’t done business with a breeder, don’t call them.  Call the person that you are buying your goats from.  If they don’t know, maybe you need to find a different breeder to deal with.